Two Moms with Two Dead Kids: When Your Child Dies From a Drug Overdose
Join two moms who talk about what it's like when your child dies from a drug overdose, and what life is like after.
Warning: Conversations may contain triggering material, dark and irreverent humor, and possible cursing.
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Episodes
30 episodes
My Ayahuasca Experience as the Parent of a Child Who Died of a Drug Overdose
The title says it all.
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Season 1
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Episode 30
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18:44
Giving In
In this episode, we discuss the benefits of "giving in." Giving in to how we feel. Giving in to the moment. Letting go of the need to get things done.Sometimes, after trauma, we go through a process of redefining what's important in our...
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Season 1
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Episode 29
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29:31
The Power of Writing It Down
Neither of us is a journaler, although DeAnne recently bought a journal with good intentions. What we can attest to, though, is the power of spontaneous writing exercises to help us understand and see ourselves in different ways. D...
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Season 1
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Episode 28
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29:05
Why Aren't We Divorced?
Kevin and Astrid continue their conversation while DeAnne is away. Kevin talks about the different ways he deals with grief, which doesn't currently include therapy. Why is that and what does he do in its place? We talk about our c...
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Season 1
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Episode 27
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27:36
A Husband. A Father. Introducing Kevin, Garrett's Dad.
DeAnne is out of town, so Astrid invites her husband Kevin, Garrett's dad, to sit in. What are some of the differences in how two parents can grieve the same child? Do we see the same events differently? Kevin gives his take on the...
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Season 1
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Episode 26
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22:16
Does Your Mother Know Where You Are?
DeAnne and Astrid discuss an interview Astrid watched with a mother whose son committed suicide. It prompted them to touch on whether their own children's deaths were accidental, or not. How do you know if an overdose death was accidental? Does...
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Season 1
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Episode 25
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26:12
Let's Talk Gabor Maté
Gabor Maté is a Canadian physician and addiction expert. (In our conversation I called him a psychologist - sorry.) In this episode we discuss his book, The Myth of Normal, and what we took away from it. One of DeAnne's biggest imp...
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Season 1
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Episode 24
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23:41
The List
Here we visit The List - topics that have come up for us in our grief journeys that we feel would be worth discussion. What's on the list? What are the things we have faced or continue to face in the process of coming to terms with a death by o...
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Season 1
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Episode 23
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30:03
An Accidental Conversation About Animals - the Pets We Love
In this conversation, we start out discussing the rituals and habits we form to get us through the day. and what happens when these get disrupted. It's interesting to think about how we rebuild ourselves and our days after the deaths of our chi...
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Season 1
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Episode 22
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25:14
Why Not You?
In this episode, we start out by talking about triggers - the things that bring up old feelings of helplessness and anxiety. Neither of us ever really felt that our children would die. But they did. And that brings up the old sayin...
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Season 1
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Episode 21
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30:46
Signs
How many of us have wished for a sign from our loved one? Did you get one? A lot? None?In this episode we discuss some of our experiences with signs.
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Season 1
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Episode 20
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25:33
There's the Shock, and Then There's the Realization That They Are Not Coming Back
In today's episode, we welcome our friend Beth, who also lost a child to a drug overdose. We talk about coming out of the shock of experiencing the death of a child, into the realization that they are not coming back. We can be so ...
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Season 1
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Episode 19
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28:00
Reopening to Life
When your child dies from an overdose, many of us harden to life. We become frozen, paralyzed, and turn to stone. In this episode, we discuss practicing going from hard to soft. Frozen to unfrozen. We also talk about where we find support in th...
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Season 1
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Episode 18
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28:28
What Are We Doing? Are We Supposed To Be Doing Something?
In this episode, we discuss how the ways in which we care for ourselves have changed. This discussion leads into a conversation about finding meaning. Is it out there to find?
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Season 1
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Episode 17
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27:08
What Does it Mean to Heal?
In this episode we discuss what it means to heal. Is there a definition for it? Is it possible to heal from grief? Or is grief a chronic condition - something to be endured but never truly healed? Interwoven into the conversation is the questio...
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Season 1
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Episode 16
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28:21
Holidays and All the Stuff That Goes With It
Holidays. When your child dies, what do you do about holidays? Do patterns change or stay the same? Cling to the old ways, or make new ones? We've pretty much decided that you can do whatever the hell you want to do. And you can make a change a...
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Season 1
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Episode 15
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36:18
All the Memories
What do we do with our memories of our children? The photos?When your child dies of an overdose, memories can get very loaded. Even the good ones can be painful. Are all of our memories ruined? We discuss.
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Season 1
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Episode 14
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25:23
Is It Really Ok That I'm Not Ok?
In this episode we talk about our sometimes tendencies to make deaths of our children ok for others. Is it ok to NOT do that? People want a happy ending, and we can't offer that. We talk about Megan Divine's book, It's Ok That You're Not Ok.&nb...
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Season 1
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Episode 13
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26:12
What's Important Now?
How have our boundaries changed after the deaths of our children? Do we relate to people differently? In this episode, we discuss ways in which our perspectives of what's important have changed. Friendships change, and the way we connect and co...
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Season 1
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Episode 12
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30:04
The Things We Reach For When It Happens
Both of our sons died from a drug overdose. In the immediate aftermath, besides asking ourselves how this could have happened, what do we do to try to understand it? Is it helpful to go through their personal things? Is it helpful to try to ide...
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Season 1
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Episode 11
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38:59
I've Got a Kid in a Bag: Otherwise Known as Unfinished Business
One of us has a kid in a bag. The other has hers in a box. We start a conversation about what we've done with the ashes of our children after they've died. Is there a right answer? How do we relate to what remains? Literally.
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Season 1
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Episode 10
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28:44
Cracking Open - A Follow Up on the Mind-Body Connection
Following up on the previous episode, The Mind-Body Connection, we explore the effects of "cracking open" and allowing ourselves to soften in our grief. What happens when we lower our protective barriers and explore what we find there? We look ...
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Season 1
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Episode 9
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30:29
The Mind-Body Connection
Today we explore the mind-body connection and what that means for us. Neither of us had ever explored this before our children died. What is it? How does it work? How does it help? Can we use the mind-body connection to connect to our children ...
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Season 1
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Episode 8
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31:34